Good post and comments following. I too think the truth lies somewhere in the middle for us believing Christians. Makes more sense that way, to me at least.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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why the watchtower is so short of money
by pepperheart inthe watchtower is so short of money because they have to pay for all the upkeep of so many branch offices around the world.because so many of the branch offices are in very poor countries and they are not balancing the budgets.
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Somewhat related question : whatever happened to their HUGE printing systems / lines that were set-up in Patterson or Wallkill NY. Machines so large that they were practically set on their foundations before the wall of the complex went up. I remember seeing vids on this a while back with the smug hard hat wearing brothers spewing BS ans snapping his suspenders about it all. Was quite the sight to see.. boasting USA
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So my wife is upset her MIPI father is broke because of being a witness.
by blownaway ini posted this before, but my wife is upset and not handling it well.
her mother has alzheimer and is in a care facility for the rest of her life.
between medicare and caid she is paid for the care.
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Good post, being a small business owner ( precision machining ) I used to get lots of grief over the fact I'm a workaholic and not a millionaire. ( as if I have nothing to show for it being modest myself ) JW's attitudes towards money are pathetic, they tend toward the fast easy money spectrum of things. They thumb their noses on the long term view of work life / career and seem to prefer members with good situations either through inheritance or cleaning empires. That and union jobs preferred for good standing in the congregation of dimwits.
A school bus driver, his wife and a financially independent retired widow used to rag on me for working seriously and investing in newer equipment and machine tools. WORK had become a four letter word for them.
Good for you BA glad you had the foresight to see through the BS, it got to a point I almost cashed everything in at one point thanks to the brainwashing.. glad I held on and 'worked' through it LOL
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I called up Bethel a few minutes ago
by new boy inwhat the heck.. i couldn't believe it, norm brekkie and tom combs are still alive.. norm is so out of it he couldn't tell you what day of the week it was.. i talked to larry fisher he is gone mentally also.
he couldn't even remember when he went to bethel.. then i called up daryl christenson.
he wasn't so friendly.
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Good stuff as usual Keith thanks for posting !
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What is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a JW article?
by blownaway inwhat is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a jw article?.
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wow good one on the autos above !!!!!!!!!
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Sex before marriage
by Jules Saturn infor ex jws, pimos, pomos, faders, born again christians, agnostics, atheists, etc.
what is your opinion regarding sex before marriage, has your view been influenced since you left?
in western society, you’ll probably find yourself ridiculed to be an 18 year old virgin so i am curious to hear opinions from here.
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I agree V7, reason I got in JW in the first place as I was on a self destructive tangent for a while and figured Biblical standards would help me out which they did, avoided quite a bit of grief I think. Lack of self control of one's impulses can end up costing big, seen it.
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What is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a JW article?
by blownaway inwhat is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a jw article?.
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It's ok Date-Dog must be the powerless JW trolls down voting you.. good thread thanks for posting.
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Sex before marriage
by Jules Saturn infor ex jws, pimos, pomos, faders, born again christians, agnostics, atheists, etc.
what is your opinion regarding sex before marriage, has your view been influenced since you left?
in western society, you’ll probably find yourself ridiculed to be an 18 year old virgin so i am curious to hear opinions from here.
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I only lost virginity at 21 due to being orphaned and survival / life pressure coupled with anxiety stemming from my situation. I didn't like the girl that much and after a month or so called it quits. I couldn't believe how easily my friends would stick it in with such a flippiant and careless attitude. I saw many working class blue collar pregnancies that scared the hell out me, so no more relationships again till my 30th.
I can't help but feel the creators purpose or man and wife with regarding the sex act, that and being somewhat emo I hate hurting peoples feelings. It's a big deal with penetration takes the whole thing to another level that I wasn't prepared to deal with.
Mt thirties were spent catering to my cock's desires and back then tried the phone dating hook up scene prior internet. Luckily for me no pregnancies followed as there were a couple bareback moments.. stupid I know
Got into JW late thirties, dated a little could of led to marriage but again was me opting out before things got serious. Now I figure am just not cut out to be in any relationship. Basically sex equals marriage according to the scriptures..
Now in my fifties if an when I meet someone compatible no problems with it but there will have to be a serious long term relationship otherwise not worth the pain to me, freedom is my friend
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What is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a JW article?
by blownaway inwhat is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a jw article?.
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I never dwelt on them when I was in as I had the gut feeling they were off.. there were a few but the skelatal hand in the revelation book and the one with the gargoyl face on the picture frame / lamp with the seventies hipster couple was weird alright..
The Stern magazine one of Pascal Petit threw me for a loop a few years ago, I was UPSET. The dark haired babe in the background was supposed to be that Italian girl who was said to of done auto. writing in the headquarters basement as the artist knew her family well. Ravyn Guilianai I believe it was.
The rabbit hole goes deep.
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How many child molesters do you personally know of in the J.W's?
by karter inwere are they now and what position are they in.. lets do a running count.. c.o.b.e was interfering with his daughter,d.f,reinstated died in good standing.. branch oveersear multiple young children d.f,reinstated in good standing.. publisher interfeared with small child in the k.h d.f not sure were he is.. publisher sexually abused 3 relatives no action taken in good standing.. current elder raped his sister years ago little action taken was not an elder at the time.. publisher sexualy abused young girl d.f,reinstater now in good standing.. m.s multiple young girls d.f,died trying to get reinstated.. so thats 7.. karter..
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I know one personally, older man in his seventies that was COBE and heard of others in my area north of Montreal.